Let’s begin here, on December 8, 2025 when the conversation began.
Jo L. — Hope you can read Joe’s post about Candace Owens. Be careful who you follow!
That’s the psy-op. They’re not amplifying her theories to uncover wrongdoing…they’re amplifying her so that her credibility becomes the delivery system for the next attack on Trump and this movement. They need a “trusted” messenger. They need someone who isn’t seen as from the left. They need someone who parades as “based,” “independent,” and “fearless,” and they need YOU emotionally invested first. So they weaponize tragedy
~platform her grief
~magnify her speculation
and convert suspicion into leverage.
This isn’t about Charlie Kirk anymore. It’s about preparing her to turn and fire on Trump, and having millions already conditioned to say:
“Well… she was the only one fighting for Charlie. Maybe she’s right about Trump too.”
That’s the play.
Bookmark this. Screenshot it. Remember who told you. The move hasn’t been made yet, but when it happens, you’ll know exactly what you’re watching. Why is so much of her base already aligned against President Trump. Watch who you’re rubbing shoulders with. She’s already started subverting him… -Alpha
Mark M – Im not on-board with shill calling of Candace. I don’t even believe everything she says, but the FBI narrative is pure horse doodoo…
EW – I used to listen to Candace. I liked her. Now I am just mad! I wonder why she went to the extreme. How much money was she paid and by whom. It makes me sad to think that people will do anything for money and for clicks. Those children will grow up knowing their mother was used by a fringe idea some one else put into her head instead of actual truth that she began her career on. Money truly is an evil trick the devil uses.
Mark M – I would say that happens a lot. Still believe she has a real desire to the truth of CK’s murder.
JoanneC – Operation discredit Donald Trump is in full swing. Emerald. MTG. We all need to be on high alert for the bull sh*ters who have claimed to be MAGA.
DanB – Joe who? The Xpost is Alpha’s …
And Candace is not a villain, DS, or whoever. IMO.
She’s just a highly reliable reflexive pinball who is promptly ricocheted in any direction any time by the bumper d’jour as desired.
She’s like the other million or so “inflooincers” pumping data, real, imagined or fabricated, that the masses of squirrels leap on, snatch up and then run to show off their latest find. Having just cast aside their last glossy acorn for the next one. Often for actual remuneration.
Our chore is to watch closely and attempt to filter the few that may actually contain a tiny nut of truth. And then assemble those few and determine if a semblance of an actual salad could be made from them.
Every – EVERY – Xpert, PhdSpinner, BasedDigger, PeaPodcaster and Bonefied ✅Mark O’Piner we read ‘stuff’ from, is subject to the same spoon fed flow of mostly distraction, lightly salted with the occasional camouflaged truth. Which are also preconfigured to misdirect.
Unless our “findings” are supported by numerous original artifacts, with meticulously documented corroboration, and/or non-digital filmstrip, we should reserve judgment, I think. 🤔
Making sense of chaos will not come in a flash. Many people hitting similar pay-dirt in unexpected ways at the same time will be our best indicator we’re getting somewhere.
The resulting flak and counter attack swarming will be our biggest indicator that we’re over the actual target, I reckon.
CliffW – I listen to Trump and no one else’s opinion on Charlie’s assination. I have watched her and many others all after headlines..amusing some of it .
Let’s just see how it all plays out.
DanB – I don’t think that Operation has missed a beat since 2016 or so.
And if current weather is blowing away more doubters (whatever their affiliation), they were never very studious to begin with.
DJT, real MAGA and A-First are the storm.
We’re highly unlikely to be blown aside by it. 😉
MH – Are we in search of truth? If we are we should support anyone asking questions without accusing them of being anti-Trump. Let questions lead to truth/revelation of facts, no matter where it leads.
JC – But when you see the same pattern emerging in unison from the same connected group of influencers, it is suss as can be. Phrasing accusations as questions with zero evidence. Ignoring responses to said questions. Move on to the next accusation framed as question. Repeat ad infinitum
RC – There are many who focus on winning the argument at the expense of the truth. It’s sad to watch.
EW – Yes we are in the business of seeking truth but when you go on a podcast and spew all of these allegations and say these outrageous things for episode after episode and say you will release your evidence but never do, then I have a problem. She has shown zero proof. Not an ounce of proof has she shown for all of the weeks she has been talking about CK’s death. Put up or shut up! I’m tired of hearing her name honestly. Everything CK stood for, all of the good he did, she has done her best to ruin the legacy. Why? If she has the proof she would have given in the first episode because that is what real truthers do. You never ever have to hide behind truth. It shines forth like a beacon. Sorry if this comes off like I’m grouchy but I have zero respect for her any longer.
MH – Does the government have no responsibility to address the questions? Or are we being ostracized for having questions. Just like being called a conspiracy theorist to make us shut up.
MM – Question: Has any other podcaster you follow offered a real explanation for the FBI’s 30 06 claim? Because for me, this is not really about Candace’s claims. It is about how unbelievable the FBI’s version of events sounds. Their narrative is falling apart so badly that Robinson will likely walk out of a courtroom a free man.
And honestly, the idea that we should stay quiet, stop asking questions, or avoid seeking other viewpoints is exactly how corruption and wrongdoing survive. When people are discouraged from challenging an official story, that is when evil gets the most room to operate. If anything, more scrutiny, not silence, is what prevents abuses of power. And honestly, if you do not have theories and questions to start with, what are you even building from? Every investigation begins with possibilities, doubts, and points that do not add up. Without that, you are not searching for truth, you are just accepting whatever you are told.
JP – Mark, you’re hearing all of this from an grifting echo chamber with zero evidence. Candy conflates for attention and never responds to those who prove her wrong. Waste of time, in my opinion.
MM – If everything is dismissed as grifting without actually addressing the legitimate questions being raised, that is not breaking out of an echo chamber. That is reinforcing one. I am not claiming every theory is correct, but ignoring inconsistencies and refusing to engage with them is not critical thinking. It is simply choosing a side and shutting the door on anything that challenges it.
JC – Oh, everyone has questions about what exactly went down. However, if you think the FBI is going to tip off people they are looking into just to tell the general public what they are doing, you’re not exactly thinking things through. I know that you know this chat doesn’t just dismiss people out of hand. But folks here are also not going to be accepting of theories spun as fact without proof.
MH – No one is ostracized here for having questions. You asked. A couple of people answered. Are you upset about how people responded? It wasn’t the answer you wanted?
EW – My issue is not with questioning a narrative. I agree that is how we get closer and closer to the truth. My issue is claiming to have proof and then not showing your cards. There is a difference.
MM – I get that the FBI is not going to broadcast every step they are taking, but this chat operates on the same basic concept as Jon Herald’s devolution series. You start with what you can see, you identify the gaps, and you work to fill those gaps with sourced information as it becomes available. It takes time to gather the facts, and nobody here is claiming theories are facts. What we are doing is looking for the sauce, comparing notes, and examining inconsistencies so we can eventually understand what actually happened. That process requires open discussion, not shutting down questions before the answers even exist.
EW – Don’t gaslight me so I keep watching and then tell me nothing.
MM- Move on from Candace. Look for another source. I’m not here to promote anyone.
EW – Yes that is exactly what we are doing. That is the definition of what we have been doing for years. I do not agree with the FBI on a lot of things. But right now, there are very few sources on the CK murder. Question all you want, that is a good thing. But until I see proof of something other than what I saw with my own eyes the day he was murdered, that is all I and the FBI have that they are willing to disclose.
There’s always more, but for now…
