EXCERPT FROM Q DROP #142 – NOV. 12, 2017
ANSWERS
What year did the Titanic sink?
1912
Why is this relevant?
It occurred before the creation of the FED
Who died on the Titanic?
John Jacob Astor IV (richest man on the ship); Benjamin Guggenheim; Captain Edward John Smith; Isidor and Ida Straus (co-owner of Macy’s); Thomas Andrews; Lady Duff Gordon; Lady Countess Rothes (Lucy Noël Martha Dyer-Edwards); Millvina Dean
What ‘exactly’ happened to the Titanic?
What ‘class of people’ were guaranteed a lifeboat?
Women and children, first class
Why did select ‘individuals’ not make it into the lifeboats?
John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, Isidor and Ida Straus were all opposed to the creation of a central bank.
Why is this relevant?
Wealthy influential opposition was eliminated.
How do we know who was on the lifeboats (D or A)?
Entire list of lifeboats and survivors in them. https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-survivors-list/
Boat A was allowed to drift off after it was partially Submerged; It was recovered a month later, by RMS Oceanic, another White Star Line ship. 3 bodies were left in the boat and 12-13 survivors made it to Boat D. 25 people were on board boat D excluding boat A’s survivors.
Known People to survive Boat A and D are Michel Marcel Navratil; Edmond Marcel Navratil; Caroline Brown; Hugh Woolner; Mauritz Håkan Björnström-Steffansson; Frederick Maxfield Hoyt; and Rhoda Abbott.
How were names and bodies recorded back then?
According to Wikipedia: Upon recovery, each body retrieved by the Mackay-Bennett was numbered and given as detailed a description as possible to help aid in identification. The physical appearance of each body—height, weight, age, hair and eye colour, visible birthmarks, scars or tattoos, was catalogued and any personal effects on the bodies were gathered and placed in small canvas bags corresponding to their number. (It was decided to preserve all bodies of First Class passengers because of the need to visually identify wealthy men to resolve any disputes over large estates)
When were tickets purchased for her maiden voyage?
In July of 1911, White Star and Harland & Wolff announced a date for Titanic’s maiden voyage – March 20, 1912.
September 20, 1911: Titanic’s maiden voyage delayed due to necessary diversion of workers and materials to repair Olympic.
October 11, 1911: White Star officially announces new date for Titanic’s maiden voyage in the London Times – April 10, 1912.
This information leads me to believe that tickets would not have been sold before July, 1911 (when the first date was announced). It seems to make sense also that ticket sales would slow or stop when construction was interrupted; then ticket sales might pick up again after the Oct. 11, 1911, announcement of the new launch date.
According to the second link I have given below, Joseph Laroche purchased tickets for his family in March, 1912.
According to the third link below, one family was transferred to the Titanic when the ship they were ticketed for was cancelled. This transfer happened “in the spring of 1912,” which at least tells us that the Titanic was not sold out by spring.
The 4th link shows what a first class ticket looked like.
Source(s):
- http://www.theteachersguide.com/Titanict…
- http://www.titanic1.org/people/louise-la…
- http://www.titanic1.org/people/winnifred…
- http://secured.titanichistoricalsociety.org/store/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jodoqpo8
Who was ‘specifically’ invited?
John Jacob Astor IV
Emilio Portaluppi well-respected stonemason received a telegram from the Astors inviting him to join them on Titanic as they returned from a holiday in Egypt. He was given first class travel and it appears, wanted him to use his skills on statues outside their Newport villa.
Bill Müller served as secretary to a Dutch traffic inspector whose job was to inspect ships for insurance and investment firms and was an invited guest aboard the Titanic from the ship’s owners.
Mott was an influential evangelist and longtime YMCA official, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize in 1946. He and a colleague were supposedly offered free passage on the Titanic by a White Star Line official interested in their work but declined and instead took the more humble liner Lapland.
The Italian inventor, wireless telegraphy pioneer and winner of the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics was offered free passage on Titanic but had taken the Lusitania three days earlier.
Less than 10.
Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt I also. Someone in the family objected to their sailing aboard the new ship “because so many things can go wrong on a maiden voyage.”
What is the FED?
Consortium of private central banks in the US.
What does the FED control?
US monetary policy, including interest rates.
Who controls the FED?
Rothschilds
Who approved the formation of the FED?
Woodrow Wilson
Why did H-wood glorify Titanic as a tragic love story?
To hide history / distract from the fact the last 3 major opponents of the FED died that night.
Who lived in the movie (what man)?
This line of questions suggest someone famous was shown to have survived in the movie but in reality died that night and his identity was stolen. Possible list Jack Thayer, William Ernest Carter, George Dunton Widener, Harry Elkins Widener, J. Bruce Ismay
Why is this relevant?
He’s a rich guy that kills himself after losing all his money in the crash
Their Narrative changes the history, or so they’d like it to.
Titanic sank due to enormous uncontrollable fire, not iceberg, claim experts. Makes sabotage a credible theory rather than ramming an iceberg which was the cover.
Outstanding post!!